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{{RightToC}}For information on the topic of continuity in fiction, continuity errors, and retroactive continuity (retcon), see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction) wikipedia - Continuity (fiction)]
{{RightToC}}For information on the topic of continuity in fiction, continuity errors, and retroactive continuity (retcon), see [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuity_(fiction) wikipedia - Continuity (fiction)]


== Basic back story of AC ==
The following pages attempt to document various errors in continuity, and if possible, draw a reasonable conclusion on what can be considered "canon".
The basic back story of AC involves the events of the [[Olthoi]] invasion of [[Auberean]], [[Asheron Realaidain|Asheron]]'s involvement, [[The Sundering]], and the conditions which summoned [[Isparian]]s to [[Dereth]]. This story has been told many times, and there is often inconsistency with these tales.
* [[Continuity/Ages of the Empyrean Versus The History of Auberean|Ages of the Empyrean Versus The History of Auberean]]
* [[Continuity/Aluvian History|Aluvian History]]
* [[Continuity/Gharu'ndim History|Gharu'ndim History]]
* [[Continuity/In-Game Calendar|In-Game Calendar]]
* [[Continuity/Kellin I and Caerlin I|Kellin I and Caerlin I]]
* [[Continuity/Roulean Calendar and Portal Years|Roulean Calendar and Portal Years]]
* [[Continuity/Rytheran and the Graveyard|Rytheran and the Graveyard]]
* [[Continuity/Tanada House of Earth|Tanada House of Earth]]
* [[Continuity/Undead|Undead]]


==== Versions ====
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===== Original Intro Video =====
* Basic Back-story
Asheron and a group of Empyrean mages are barricaded in a great hall - the mages sitting in a circle, Asheron behind them. Across the room from Asheron, the barricaded door is being pounded on, and just before it is breached, Asheron casts a powerful portal magic spell sending the other mages away. Moments later, Olthoi pour into the room and the ceiling begins to collapse. It then cuts to an exterior shot of the castle, which is now crumbling apart. It returns inside, where Asheron's hand is seen reaching out of the rubble.<br><br>At an undetermined time later, Elysa enters a portal to Dereth, with an embroidered picture implying that other species were also summoned at or around the same time. Elysa is Enslaved, but later escapes, meets [[Thorsten Cragstone|Thorsten]], ventures to Asheron's Tower, and meets Asheron himself. Asheron gives her a special potion that is deadly to Olthoi. Later, Elysa, Thorsten, and the other rebels assault the central hive of the Olthoi. Thorsten is killed by the Queen, and Elysa slays her afterwards. Finally, other Isparians are shown arriving at the now settled human outposts of Dereth.<br><br>[http://ac.warcry.com/db/text/151 A Stormwaltz quote] states that the scene at the castle takes place on Dereth, and the mages with Asheron are adepts of the Knorr Lyceum. The adepts were the last Empyreans to leave. They had stayed behind to help Asheron evacuate everyone else.
** [[Continuity/Olthoi Invasion|Olthoi Invasion]]
 
** [[Continuity/Sundering and The Call|Sundering and The Call]]
===== Original Manual =====
** [[Continuity/Elysa and Thorsten|Elysa And Thorsten]]
Asheron accidentally opened the portal to the Olthoi world that set them loose upon Auberean. When their empire was lost Asheron cast the Sundering, and stayed behind to try to find a way to defeat the Olthoi. The Sundering directly and instantly caused portals to open on other worlds, including Ispar. Asheron saw great potential in the humans and began to concentrate on summoning more to Dereth. Many that arrived were enslaved by the Olthoi, but eventually, aided by Asheron, the Isparians won their freedom.
 
===== Historical Archive/Sybex Strategy Guide =====
The two tales told in these pieces are nearly identical, with just some minor wording changes in the strategy guide. This version is very similar to the one found in the original manual, however, it is more detailed, and it does not specifically blame Asheron for unleashing the Olthoi. Rather, it states that it was a magical experiment gone awry. The bulk of the text details early Isparians and the Olthoi rebellion.
 
===== A Time of Chaos Retcon =====
During the Olthoi arc, the way to the distant Knorr Lyceum was discovered. Inside, many texts written by Asheron were discovered. The story of the Olthoi invasion was changed, or further clarified, by these texts. It was not a magical experiment or accident on Asheron's part that caused the invasion - and his discovery of portal magic is only partially to blame, in that it enabled the exploration of other worlds. Instead, it was [[Gaerlan]] who inadvertently left a portal link to the Olthoi homeworld open. And it was [[Emperor Kellin]] who demanded that more Olthoi specimen be brought to Knorr, including the Olthoi Queen. With the Queen on Auberean, the lesser Olthoi began to obey her will again, and this is what caused Knorr to fall, and eventually, all of Auberean.<br><br>The manual included in Throne of Destiny has slightly revised text from previous manuals which puts the blame on Gaerlan.
 
===== The Knorr Quiddity Seed =====
This quest involves entering dream realms and defending Asheron's memories from Aerbax. It is an in-game retelling of the first scene of the original intro video, with Asheron and his disciples. However, this retelling has many errors. First, it takes place at the Knorr Lyceum. However, the events in the video are said to take place somewhere on Dereth, as it was the final stronghold of the Yalain people, where Knorr would be the heart of the Olthoi's territory. Second, in the video, the building crumbles to pieces, yet it is in perfect condition when we visit it in the present day.
 
==== Conclusion ====
*'''Olthoi Invasion''' - The Olthoi arc retcon is considered the correct lore. Asheron was not directly responsible for the Olthoi invasion, it was Gaerlan and the Emperor.
*'''Sundering''' - The truth about The Sundering remains a mystery. In all accounts, it did cause a disturbance in the fabric of Portal Space. But whether or not the Sundering caused portals to begin to appear on other worlds is up for debate. Two articles on Crossroads of Dereth state that the Virindi were the first other-worldly species to arrive, they fought Asheron over something, and lost [http://ac.warcry.com/content/lore/ages] and that the time passed between the casting of The Sundering and the appearance of portals on Ispar is  1,400 to 600 years [http://ac.warcry.com/content/lore/empyrean_history/yalain]
 
== Undead ==
In early days, the back story of the existence of undead was very different from what it is now. While today undead are almost always members of the ancient Empyrean cultures of the Dericost and Falatacot, that was not always the case. The [[Zone_Bestiary#Undead|Zone Bestiary Undead Entry]] originally described them much differently. Undead were said to be the reanimated corpses of fallen Isparians, possessed by evil spirits said to be linked to [[Bael'Zharon]].
 
During the [[The Fourth Sending of Darkness|first story arc]] this was retconned to the current Dericost origin of Undead. However, there are many early dungeons and points of interest that still suggest the undead have an Isparian/Shadow source. For example, the [[Ancient Warrior's Tower|lore]] of the [[36.2S, 65.0E - Hilltop Ruins|Hilltop Ruins]] near Shoushi state that the undead there are fallen Sho warriors who fled from battle. Another example is the somewhat common pairing of Shadow and Undead in early dungeons.
 
== Tanada House of Earth ==
The [[Tanada House of Fire (Quest)|Tanada House of Fire]] quest involves recovering special scrolls that belonged to the houses of Air, Earth, and Water. [[Tanada Sajo]] explains that "because Aerbax succeeded in corrupting the Masters of Air, Earth, and Water, he was able to steal the scroll of each House." However, the lore of the [[Tanada House of Earth (Quest)|Tanada House of Earth]] quest implies that the House of Earth is unaffected by the recent corruption of the House of Air.


== Basic back-story of AC ==
The basic back story of AC involves the events of the [[Olthoi]] invasion of [[Auberean]], [[Asheron Realaidain|Asheron]]'s involvement, [[The Sundering]], and the conditions which summoned [[Isparian]]s to [[Dereth]]. This story has been told many times, and there is often inconsistency with these tales.
<br><br>According to a [[Stormwaltz Quotes|Stormwaltz quote]], in the original lore outline documents the Yalaini development of portalspace amounted to three lines: Asheron uses portal magic to trap BZ, Asheron creates a stable portal, Asheron brings in the bugs.<ref name=SQOnHarluneAndStoryline>2002/03 [[Stormwaltz Quotes]] - [http://ac.warcry.com/db/text/301 On Harlune and the Storyline]</ref> The original version was that Asheron was surprised and overwhelmed by the Olthoi and was unable to close the portal to their world before thousands of Olthoi had already entered Auberean.<ref name=SQOnHarluneAndStoryline/> This version of the story is retold with minor variations in the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75iwpsH5MPA original intro video], the [[Asheron's Call Manual|original manual]], the [[Microsoft Games Archive/World/History/Historical Archive|Historical Archive]], the [[Asheron's Call: Sybex Official Strategies and Secrets|Sybex strategy guide]], and the [[Asheron's Call Dark Majesty Manual|AC:DM manual]].
<br><br>During the [[A Time of Chaos]] story arc the story was changed significantly. Players gained access to [[Knorr]], where the Yalaini launched their exploration missions to other worlds. Inside, many texts written by Asheron were discovered. With these texts and others, the story of the Olthoi invasion was changed. It was not a magical experiment gone awry or accident on Asheron's part that caused the invasion - and his discovery of portal magic is only partially to blame, in that it enabled the exploration of other worlds. Instead, it was [[Gaerlan]] who inadvertently left a portal link to the Olthoi homeworld open. And it was Emperor [[Kellin II]] who demanded that more Olthoi specimen be brought to Knorr, including the Olthoi Queen. With the Queen on Auberean, the lesser Olthoi began to obey her will again, and this is what caused Knorr to fall, and eventually, all of Auberean. The [[Asheron's Call Throne of Destiny Manual|AC:ToD manual]] reflected this story change with its (incredibly brief) lore summary, which placed the blame of the Olthoi invasion on Gaerlan.
<br><br>Later, [[Knorr Quiddity Seed Quest]] quest was added. This quest involves entering dream realms and defending Asheron's memories from Aerbax. It is an in-game retelling of the first scene of the original intro video, with Asheron and his disciples. However, this retelling has many errors. First, it takes place at the Knorr Lyceum. However, the events in the video are said to take place somewhere on Dereth, as it was the final stronghold of the Yalaini people, where Knorr would be the heart of the Olthoi's territory. Second, in the video, the building crumbles to pieces, yet it is in perfect condition when we visit it in the present day. While an interesting quest, it either entirely changes the history, or (more likely) is not accurate at all.
<br><br><big><b>Conclusion</b></big>
<br><br><b>Olthoi Invasion</b>- The Olthoi arc retcon is considered the correct lore. Asheron was not directly responsible for the Olthoi invasion, it was Gaerlan and the Emperor.
<br><br><b>Sundering</b> - The truth about The Sundering remains a mystery. In all accounts, it did cause a disturbance in the fabric of Portal Space. But whether or not the Sundering caused portals to begin to appear on other worlds is up for debate.
<br><br>The current Yalain Age is Moriqui Eipoth (ME), and was declared by Asheron after he sent his people away. According to information in the [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]] lore document included on the AC:DM CD, the date that Isparians first arrived on Dereth was ME 564<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM CD Lore/Ages of the Empyrean|Ages of the Empyrean]]</ref>. So the notion that The Sundering instantly caused portals to appear on Ispar is not correct, it took 564 years.
<br><br>According to the [[AC:DM CD Lore]], the Virindi arrived on Dereth before any other race, and they fought Asheron over something and lost.<ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean/><ref name=AgesOfTheEmpyrean>2001/11 [[Dark Majesty]] - [[AC:DM_CD_Lore/Bestiary/Derethian_Bestiary#Virindi|Bestiary: Virindi]]</ref> The fact that the Virindi are explicitly stated to be the first to arrive could imply a wide range of things. Perhaps they intentionally or unintentionally disrupted portal space. Or perhaps, when they fought Asheron the battle weakened the wizard and some protection he placed on the currents of portal space fell. Whatever the case, it seems unlikely that the Sundering is the true cause, but the truth may never be revealed.
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The following pages attempt to document various errors in continuity, and if possible, draw a reasonable conclusion on what can be considered "canon".

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