User:Sanddh/Guides/Fail-Dyeing

Related topics: Dyeing, User:Sanddh/Guides/Armor Color Table, {{Dyed Variations}}, Category:Dyeable

General

With Dyeing many Quest and Loot-generated Armor could be matched better. Unfortunately, the colors obtained by using plants are limited to 9 colors total, and these do not include orange or pink.

These colors can only be obtained by fail-dyeing. Each time a dye attempt is made, there is a small chance it can fail based on the cooking skill of the dyer. A minor failure will cause a loss of 20 AL, a critical failure a loss of 50 AL.

With Tailoring brought in, these losses of AL became less important, since the pink or orange item could be tailored upon another piece of armor or clothing.

With quest items becoming tailorable, the opportunities to walk around in hot pink or nuked orange increased tremendously.

The Fail-Dye Mule

To fail a dye, a character needs to be trained in Cooking. The lower the skill of Cooking the higher the chances of fail-dyeing. A fail-dye mule should start with 10 Focus and 10 Coordination, and never raise these attributes, and of course train (not spec) Cooking. If you make a fail-dyer, do not take any of the Isparian Races, since they start out with the Jack of All Trades augmentation, which gives +5 to Cooking. Leveling this character is of course possible, but with never raising these attributes, it is hard to make this a viable character, since for Magics a high focus is preferred, and for Melee & Missile a high Coordination. Of course, never buff these skills either, nor wear armor that increases these attributes (or cooking).

Additionally, you need an alchemist/cook with a high skill to actually make the dye-pots. Preferably, do not train Alchemy on the mule, since if you have a huge chance to fail in Cooking, you also have a chance to destroy the Plants, Dyes and Cooking Pots. Make those Dye pots on another toon and hand these pots to the fail-dye mule.

To increase the chance of the failing, it is a good idea to keep the mule at 40% vitae, and debuff him with the level 8s for Cooking, Focus and Coordination. In other words, let the mule go pklite, clobbered a few times on the head (or go for a few short trips to VoD hotdrop), and let the said skills be debuffed to the max.

When Orange, when Pink?

General rule: Armor made out of Metal dyes orange, Cloth dyes pink, and Hide can go either way.

Notable exception for metal is Covenant Armor which, though made out of metal, fail-dyes pink. Also, anything Chiran Armor dyes pink, including the (metal) helmet.

Notable exception for clothing are the Aphus Wading Pants, the Sparring Pants and Sparring Shirt, which are the only pieces of underclothing known to dye orange.

Some items combine orange and pink when fail-dyed, examples of this are the Silken Wrap, the Studded Leather Basinet and the Lorica Breastplate.

Not always the results of fail-dyeing are what you would have expected. In addition, one Loot Armor Type can see either pink or orange (and different shades of that) on different pieces of Armor, for example Koujia Armor, Lorica Armor and Knorr Academy Armor. The fail-dyeing of store-bought Leather Armor results in a pale pink, loot-generated Leather Armor fail-dyes an almost yellow orange. Viamontian Undershirts fail-dye a hot pink, the Pants an almost red dark pink. An inconsistency seen a few times is the icon indicates the item has turned out orange, but in fact became pink, or vice versa (for example Covenant Armor).

Another observation made by fail-dyeing is that, though two items look almost the same, the result of fail-dyeing might be different. Examples of this are the Helm of the Crag (orange) versus the Chiran Helm (pink), or the Amuli Leggings (pink) versus the Gromnie Hide Amuli Leggings (orange).

On a note: Cloaks take on the color of the underclothes. However, how they represent especially the pink shades can be quite... surprising.

There are a few items that, no matter how low the Cooking skill of my mule was, could not be fail-dyed. These include the Wedding Raiments and the Realaidain Raiment.

For examples of fail-dyeing, check the Category:Dyeable page, which lists all the items ingame currently dyeable, and which include a Dyed Variations Table. The last picture on each of those tables presents the result of fail-dyeing.

Pink Palettes

(see also the table below)

This is quite subjective, but here I will present the items known to dye pink, categorized in "Hot Pink", "Dull Pink", "Purplish Pink" and "Pale Pink"

Hot Pink

Underclothes
		Aphus Lounging Shirt		Asheron's Supreme Raiment		Gladiatorial Tunic		Lace Shirt
		Poet's Shirt		Vest

Full Body Coverage
		Armsman's Robe		Bathrobe		Dho Vest and Robe		Faran Robe
		Faran Robe with Hood		Gelidite Robe		Kireth Gown with Band		Kireth Gown with Band (Altered)
		Kiyafa Robe		Pathwarden Robe (Aluvian)		Pathwarden Robe (Gharu'ndim)		Pathwarden Robe (Sho)
		Pathwarden Robe (Viamontian)		Sleek Dress		Suikan Robe		Swamp Lord's War Paint
		Vestiri Robe		Vestiri Robe with Hood		Yifan Dress

Head Armor
		Aphus Sun Guard		Aviator's Cap		Bandana		Beret
		Chicken Hat		Covenant Armor		Eye Patch		Gromnie Hide Helmet
		Ice Heaume of Frore		Trapper's Hat		Turquoise Winged Helmet

Upper Body Armor
		Covenant Armor		Dusky Winged Coat		Gromnie Hide Coat

Hand Armor
		Covenant Armor		Gromnie Hide Gauntlets		Superior Shield

Lower Body Armor
		Battle Pants		Covenant Armor		Gromnie Hide Leggings		Lustrous Winged Leggings
		Suzuhara's Girth of Flame Protection

Feet Armor
		Covenant Armor		Gromnie Hide Boots		Loafers		Ruddy Winged Boots
		Viamontian Laced Boots

Dull Pink

Underclothes
		Silken Wrap

Full Body Coverage
		Enscorcelled Robe		Luminous Robe		Marksman's Robe		Tessera Gown

Purplish Pink

Head Armor
		Chiran Armor		Miner's Hat		Timberman's Hat

Upper Body Armor
		Chiran Armor		Lorica Armor

Lower Body Armor
		Chiran Armor

Hand Armor
		Chiran Armor		Mitts of the Hunter

Feet Armor
		Chiran Armor

Warm, almost red Pink

Underclothes
		Gladiatorial Leggings		Viamontian Pants

Full Body Coverage
		Doppelganger Robe

Head Armor
		Cloth Cap		Cowl		Leather Cap

Pale Pink

Underclothes
		Baggy Breeches		Baggy Pants		Baggy Shirt		Baggy Tunic
		Breeches		Doublet		Flared Pants		Flared Shirt
		Flared Tunic		Jerkin		Leather Boots		Loose Breeches
		Loose Pants		Loose Shirt		Loose Tunic		Pantaloons
		Pants		Puffy Shirt		Puffy Tunic		Shirt
		Smock		Toga		Trousers		Tunic
		Wide Breeches

Head Armor
		Fez		Hood		Kasa		Lyceum Hood
		Qafiya		Sedgemail Leather Armor		Studded Leather Armor		Turban

Upper Body Armor
		Mattekar Hide Coat		Dho Vest and Over-robe		Empyrean Over-robe (Loot)		Faran Over-robe
		Koujia Armor		Knorr Academy Armor		Sedgemail Leather Armor		Sleeves of Inexhaustibility
		Studded Leather Armor		Suikan Over-robe		Vestiri Over-robe

Lower Body Armor
		Amuli Armor		Amuli Leggings (Infiltrator Master)		Amuli Leggings (The Crafter)		Knorr Academy Armor
		Sedgemail Leather Armor		Studded Leather Armor

Hand Armor
		Cloth Gloves		Knorr Academy Armor		Sedgemail Leather Armor		Studded Leather Armor

Feet Armor
		Boots		Knorr Academy Armor		Sandals		Sedgemail Leather Armor
		Shoes		Slippers		Steel Toed Boots		Studded Leather Armor

Samples of Pink Palettes

AC ID	Name	Color Sample	Hex	R	G	B	H	S	L	Item	Obtained
4055	CriticalPink		B06672	176	102	114	91790	32	55	Old Style Fail	Loot
4059	Unknown (Ex Color: CC0061, 40/40, Ex Color: 611730, 80/12, Ex Color: 641F3F, 116/12, Ex Color: 554241, 96/12		FF1985, 9E264E, 9E3265, 806362	255	25	133	91772	100	55	Faran Robe Fail	Shop
4158	Unknown (Ex Color: DC0072, 40/76, Ex Color: DC0072, 116/20, Ex Color: A9A29D, 136/4, Ex Color: B2005A, 140/20		FF2998, CDC8C5, FE007E	255	41	152	91769	100	58	Kireth Gown with Band Fail	Shop
5048	FailedOrange		EF3570	239	53	112	91781	85	57	Covenant	Loot
5495	TrapperPink		F5027E	245	2	126	91769	98	48	Aphus Sun Guard Fail	Quest
5996	Unknown (Ex Color: A6006A, 136/24)		F2009A	242	0	154	228	255	121	Battle Pants Fail	Shop
6128	BortinPink		CA0092	202	0	146	91757	100	40	Chiran Fail	Loot
6360	Unknown (Ex Color: 94114D, 174/66)		D81A6F	216	26	111	91773	79	47	Swamp Lord's War Paint Fail	Quest
6418	SilkenWrap		9B0057	155	0	87	91766	100	30	Silken Wrap Fail	Quest
6442	Unknown (Ex Color: 990049, 72/24, Ex Color: 7B003B, 136/24)		E6006C, C8005E	230	0	108	235	255	115	Winged Gromnie Armor Fail	Quest
6596	Unknown (Ex Color: 8A0046, 72/24)		D6006F	214	0	111	91769	100	42	Suzuhara's Girth of Flame Protection Fail	Quest
6884	Pink_VShirt		E40B70	228	11	112	91772	91	47	Lace Shirt, Vest, Poet's Shirt	Loot
7030	Unknown (Ex Color: 131313, 160/80)		3A3A3A	58	58	58	0	0	23	Loafers, Viamontian Laced Boots	Loot Fail
7084	Unknown (Ex Color: FF2580, 40/24)		FF71AD	255	113	173	91775	100	72	Lace Shirt, Vest, Poet's Shirt Fail	Loot

Orange Palettes

(for samples of orange, fail-dye palets, see the table below)

This is quite subjective, but here I will present the items known to dye orange, categorized in "Nuked Orange", "Warm Orange", "Dull Orange", "Brownish Orange" and "Pale Orange"

Nuked Orange

Underclothes
		Aphus Wading Pants

Head Armor
		Armet		Baigha		Chainmail Armor		Circlet
		Coronet		Diadem		Haebrean Armor		Heaume
		Helm of the Crag		Helmet		Horned Helm		Kabuton
		Knorr Academy Armor		Olthoi Helm		Salvager's Helm		Scalemail Armor
		Signet Crown		Studded Leather Armor		Teardrop Crown

Upper Body Armor
		Amuli Armor		Amuli Coat (Infiltrator Master)		Amuli Coat (The Crafter)		Celdon Armor
		Chainmail Armor		Haebrean Armor		Koujia Armor		Knorr Academy Armor
		Platemail Armor		Scalemail Armor		Yoroi Armor

Lower Body Armor
		Celdon Armor		Chainmail Armor		Haebrean Armor		Koujia Armor
		Platemail Armor		Scalemail Armor		Yoroi Armor

Hand Armor
		Chainmail Armor		Haebrean Armor		Platemail Armor		Scalemail Armor

Feet Armor
		Haebrean Armor		Sollerets

Warm Orange

Underclothes
		Sparring Shirt

Head Armor
		Alduressa Armor		Crimped Hat		Crown		Diforsa Armor
		Metal Cap		Noble Helm		Olthoi Alduressa Armor		Olthoi Amuli Armor
		Olthoi Armor (Loot)		Olthoi Celdon Armor		Olthoi Koujia Armor

Upper Body Armor
		Alduressa Armor		Diforsa Armor		Gromnie Hide Amuli Coat		Lugian Armor
		Olthoi Alduressa Armor		Olthoi Amuli Armor		Olthoi Armor (Loot)		Olthoi Celdon Armor
		Olthoi Koujia Armor		Squalid Coat		Tenassa Armor

Lower Body Armor
		Alduressa Armor		Diforsa Armor		Gromnie Hide Amuli Leggings		Noble Leggings
		Olthoi Alduressa Armor		Olthoi Amuli Armor		Olthoi Armor (Loot)		Olthoi Celdon Armor
		Olthoi Koujia Armor		Squalid Leggings		Tenassa Armor

Hand Armor
		Alduressa Armor		Diforsa Armor		Fists of Stone		Noble Gauntlets
		Olthoi Alduressa Armor		Olthoi Amuli Armor		Olthoi Armor (Loot)		Olthoi Celdon Armor
		Olthoi Koujia Armor

Feet Armor
		Alduressa Armor		Diforsa Armor		Leather Armor		Olthoi Alduressa Armor
		Olthoi Amuli Armor		Olthoi Armor (Loot)		Olthoi Celdon Armor		Olthoi Koujia Armor
		Walking Boots

Dull and Yellowish Orange

Underclothes
		Silken Wrap		Sparring Pants

Full Body Coverage
		Dapper Suit		Hearty Reedshark Robe		Sturdy Reedshark Robe

Head Armor
		Leather Armor		Nariyid Armor

Upper Body Armor
		Armoredillo Hide Bracers		Armoredillo Hide Bracers		Armoredillo Hide Coat		Armoredillo Hide Cuirass
		Bastion of Tukal		Fine Armoredillo Hide Shirt		Leather Armor		Nariyid Armor

Lower Body Armor
		Leather Armor		Nariyid Armor

Hand Armor
		Leather Armor		Machinist's Gloves		Nariyid Armor

Feet Armor
		Nariyid Armor

Brownish Orange

Feet Armor
		Bunny Slippers		Hulking Bunny Slippers

Pale Orange

Upper Body Armor
		Breastplate of Grace		Breastplate of Power		Breastplate of Splendor

Feet Armor
		Noble Sollerets

Samples of Orange Palettes

AC ID	Name	Color Sample	Hex	R	G	B	H	S	L	Item	Obtained
4051	NukedOrange		FB6C24	251	108	36	20	96	56	Old Style, Festival Shirt	Loot
4890	Unknown (Ex Color: 642D00, 160/8)		B04F00	176	79	0	27	100	35	Bunny Slippers Fail	Quest
5604	Unknown (Ex Color: 856200, 72/8, Ex Color: 713C00, 108/8, Ex Color: 815D00, 128/8, Ex Color: 8D6600, 174/12		D29900, BE6700,D29900,DA9F00	210	153	0	31	255	105	Bastion of Tukal Fail	Quest
5701	Unknown (Ex Color: 986400, 96/20)		E49600	228	155	0	28	255	114	Armoredillo Hide Armor Fail	Quest
5737	Unknown (Ex Color: BD7700, 72/64)		FFA60B	255	166	11	38	100	52	Leather Fail	Loot
6015	Unknown Ex Color: B36800, 64/8		FC9400	252	148	0	25	255	126	Sparring Pants Fail	Shop
6024	Unknown Ex Color: 823606, 40/24		CA520A	202	82	10	16	231	106	Sparring Shirt Fail	Shop
6180	NukedDye		AC6100	172	97	0	34	100	34	Lorica Fail	Loot

Matching suits

Sometimes, your favorite piece of Armor just does not want to turn into the right shade of pink or orange. No need to panic, the Loot Generator has a few shades of pink and orange too. On User:Sanddh/Guides/Armor Color Table you can find Work in Progress on all the color variations available ingame.

Just a few hints for the Pink addicts:

}} and the Orange Addicts:

AC ID	Name	Color Sample	Hex	R	G	B	H	S	L	Item	Obtained
1464	Orchid		723D6A	114	61	106	91749	30	34	Old Style	Loot
1468	Violet		6D2061	109	32	97	91749	55	28	Old Style	Loot
1480	Rose		7E4560	126	69	96	91772	29	38	Old Style	Loot
3658	PortalPurple		A010BF	160	16	191	289	85	41	Old Style	Loot
3664	DullMagenta		960FB3	150	15	179	289	85	38	Old Style	Loot
3665	PrincessPurple		8C0EA7	140	14	167	289	85	35	Old Style, Helm of the Abyssal Totem	Loot
5074	JaylaPurple		AC0FC1	172	15	193	293	86	41	Covenant	Loot
5078	SultressPurple		D31AED	211	26	237	293	85	52	Covenant	Loot
5079	LingiePink		D82FEE	216	47	238	293	85	56	Covenant	Loot
5080	DeitrichPurple		DB43F0	219	67	240	293	85	60	Covenant	Loot
5081	YasuhiroPurple		C312DB	195	18	219	293	85	46	Covenant	Loot
5087	CabalistCoral		EE3E2F	238	62	47	5	85	56	Covenant	Loot
5088	CoralPink		F05648	240	86	72	5	85	61	Covenant	Loot
5772	Pink_Leat		981F5A	152	31	90	91771	66	36	Leather	Loot

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Images

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  Pink Dyed Chiran Suit Front
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  Pink Dyed Chiran Suit Back

AC ID	Name	Color Sample	Hex	R	G	B	H	S	L	Item	Obtained
1676	Flame		A6410E	166	65	14	20	84	35	Old Style	Loot
1681	Tangerine		B54710	181	71	16	20	84	39	Old Style	Loot
1682	AssaultOrange		C34D11	195	77	17	20	84	42	Old Style	Loot
5044	OwnuzOrange		F77100	247	113	0	27	100	48	Covenant	Loot
5045	TommyOrange		FF8216	255	130	22	28	100	54	Covenant	Loot
5046	SuxOrange		FF8A26	255	138	38	28	100	57	Covenant	Loot
5047	SeedlingOrang		DB6500	219	101	0	28	100	43	Covenant	Loot
5112	BrightGinger		E46E17	228	110	23	25	82	49	Covenant	Loot
5593	Orange_Olthoi		F86C00	248	108	0	26	100	49	New "Olthoi" Style	Loot