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Related topics: Dyeing, User:Sanddh/Guides/Armor Color Table, {{Dyed Variations}}, Category:Dyeable

General

With Dyeing many Quest and Loot-generated Armor could be matched better. Unfortunately, the colors obtained by using plants are limited to 9 colors total, and these do not include orange or pink.

These colors can only be obtained by fail-dyeing. Each time a dye attempt is made, there is a small chance it can fail based on the cooking skill of the dyer. A minor failure will cause a loss of 20 AL, a critical failure a loss of 50 AL.

With Tailoring brought in, these losses of AL became less important, since the pink or orange item could be tailored upon another piece of armor or clothing.

With quest items becoming tailorable, the opportunities to walk around in hot pink or nuked orange increased tremendously.

The Fail-Dye Mule

To fail a dye, a character needs to be trained in Cooking. The lower the skill of Cooking the higher the chances of fail-dyeing. A fail-dye mule should start with 10 Focus and 10 Coordination, and never raise these attributes, and of course train (not spec) Cooking. If you make a fail-dyer, do not take any of the Isparian Races, since they start out with the Jack of All Trades augmentation, which gives +5 to Cooking. Leveling this character is of course possible, but with never raising these attributes, it is hard to make this a viable character, since for Magics a high focus is preferred, and for Melee & Missile a high Coordination. Of course, never buff these skills either, nor wear armor that increases these attributes (or cooking).

Additionally, you need an alchemist/cook with a high skill to actually make the dye-pots. Preferably, do not train Alchemy on the mule, since if you have a huge chance to fail in Cooking, you also have a chance to destroy the Plants, Dyes and Cooking Pots. Make those Dye pots on another toon and hand these pots to the fail-dye mule.

To increase the chance of the failing, it is a good idea to keep the mule at 40% vitae, and debuff him with the level 8s for Cooking, Focus and Coordination. In other words, let the mule go pklite, clobbered a few times on the head (or go for a few short trips to VoD hotdrop), and let the said skills be debuffed to the max.

When Orange, when Pink?

General rule: Armor made out of Metal dyes orange, Cloth dyes pink, and Hide can go either way.

Notable exception for metal is Covenant Armor which, though made out of metal, fail-dyes pink. Also, anything Chiran Armor dyes pink, including the (metal) helmet.

Notable exception for clothing are the Aphus Wading Pants, the Sparring Pants and Sparring Shirt, which are the only pieces of underclothing known to dye orange.

Some items combine orange and pink when fail-dyed, examples of this are the Silken Wrap, the Studded Leather Basinet and the Lorica Breastplate.

Not always the results of fail-dyeing are what you would have expected. In addition, one Loot Armor Type can see either pink or orange (and different shades of that) on different pieces of Armor, for example Koujia Armor, Lorica Armor and Knorr Academy Armor. The fail-dyeing of store-bought Leather Armor results in a pale pink, loot-generated Leather Armor fail-dyes an almost yellow orange. Viamontian Undershirts fail-dye a hot pink, the Pants an almost red dark pink. An inconsistency seen a few times is the icon indicates the item has turned out orange, but in fact became pink, or vice versa (for example Covenant Armor).

Another observation made by fail-dyeing is that, though two items look almost the same, the result of fail-dyeing might be different. Examples of this are the Helm of the Crag (orange) versus the Chiran Helm (pink), or the Amuli Leggings (pink) versus the Gromnie Hide Amuli Leggings (orange).

On a note: Cloaks take on the color of the underclothes. However, how they represent especially the pink shades can be quite... surprising.

There are a few items that, no matter how low the Cooking skill of my mule was, could not be fail-dyed. These include the Wedding Raiments and the Realaidain Raiment.

For examples of fail-dyeing, check the Category:Dyeable page, which lists all the items ingame currently dyeable, and which include a Dyed Variations Table. The last picture on each of those tables presents the result of fail-dyeing.

Pink Palettes

(see also the table below)

This is quite subjective, but here I will present the items known to dye pink, categorized in "Hot Pink", "Dull Pink", "Purplish Pink" and "Pale Pink"

Hot Pink

Underclothes
Aphus Lounging Shirt
Asheron's Supreme Raiment
Gladiatorial Tunic
Lace Shirt
Poet's Shirt
Vest


Full Body Coverage
Armsman's Robe
Bathrobe
Dho Vest and Robe
Faran Robe
Faran Robe with Hood
Gelidite Robe
Kireth Gown with Band
Kireth Gown with Band (Altered)
Kiyafa Robe
Pathwarden Robe (Aluvian)
Pathwarden Robe (Gharu'ndim)
Pathwarden Robe (Sho)
Pathwarden Robe (Viamontian)
Sleek Dress
Suikan Robe
Swamp Lord's War Paint
Vestiri Robe
Vestiri Robe with Hood
Yifan Dress


Head Armor
Aphus Sun Guard
Aviator's Cap
Bandana
Beret
Chicken Hat
Covenant Armor
Eye Patch
Gromnie Hide Helmet
Ice Heaume of Frore
Trapper's Hat
Turquoise Winged Helmet


Upper Body Armor
Covenant Armor
Dusky Winged Coat
Gromnie Hide Coat


Hand Armor
Covenant Armor
Gromnie Hide Gauntlets
Superior Shield


Lower Body Armor
Battle Pants
Covenant Armor
Gromnie Hide Leggings
Lustrous Winged Leggings
Suzuhara's Girth of Flame Protection


Feet Armor
Covenant Armor
Gromnie Hide Boots
Loafers
Ruddy Winged Boots
Viamontian Laced Boots


Dull Pink

Underclothes
Silken Wrap


Full Body Coverage
Enscorcelled Robe
Luminous Robe
Marksman's Robe
Tessera Gown


Purplish Pink

Head Armor
Chiran Armor
Miner's Hat
Timberman's Hat


Upper Body Armor
Chiran Armor
Lorica Armor


Lower Body Armor
Chiran Armor


Hand Armor
Chiran Armor
Mitts of the Hunter


Feet Armor
Chiran Armor


Warm, almost red Pink

Underclothes
Gladiatorial Leggings
Viamontian Pants


Full Body Coverage
Doppelganger Robe


Head Armor
Cloth Cap
Cowl
Leather Cap


Pale Pink

Underclothes
Baggy Breeches
Baggy Pants
Baggy Shirt
Baggy Tunic
Breeches
Doublet
Flared Pants
Flared Shirt
Flared Tunic
Jerkin
Leather Boots
Loose Breeches
Loose Pants
Loose Shirt
Loose Tunic
Pantaloons
Pants
Puffy Shirt
Puffy Tunic
Shirt
Smock
Toga
Trousers
Tunic
Wide Breeches


Head Armor
Fez
Hood
Kasa
Lyceum Hood
Qafiya
Sedgemail Leather Armor
Studded Leather Armor
Turban


Upper Body Armor
Mattekar Hide Coat
Dho Vest and Over-robe
Empyrean Over-robe (Loot)
Faran Over-robe
Koujia Armor
Knorr Academy Armor
Sedgemail Leather Armor
Sleeves of Inexhaustibility
Studded Leather Armor
Suikan Over-robe
Vestiri Over-robe


Lower Body Armor
Amuli Armor
Amuli Leggings (Infiltrator Master)
Amuli Leggings (The Crafter)
Knorr Academy Armor
Sedgemail Leather Armor
Studded Leather Armor


Hand Armor
Cloth Gloves
Knorr Academy Armor
Sedgemail Leather Armor
Studded Leather Armor


Feet Armor
Boots
Knorr Academy Armor
Sandals
Sedgemail Leather Armor
Shoes
Slippers
Steel Toed Boots
Studded Leather Armor


Samples of Pink Palettes

AC ID Name Color Sample Hex R G B H S L Item Obtained
4055 CriticalPink B06672 176 102 114 91790 32 55 Old Style Fail Loot
4059 Unknown (Ex Color: CC0061, 40/40, Ex Color: 611730, 80/12, Ex Color: 641F3F, 116/12, Ex Color: 554241, 96/12 FF1985, 9E264E, 9E3265, 806362 255 25 133 91772 100 55 Faran Robe Fail Shop
4158 Unknown (Ex Color: DC0072, 40/76, Ex Color: DC0072, 116/20, Ex Color: A9A29D, 136/4, Ex Color: B2005A, 140/20 FF2998, CDC8C5, FE007E 255 41 152 91769 100 58 Kireth Gown with Band Fail Shop
5048 FailedOrange EF3570 239 53 112 91781 85 57 Covenant Loot
5495 TrapperPink F5027E 245 2 126 91769 98 48 Aphus Sun Guard Fail Quest
5996 Unknown (Ex Color: A6006A, 136/24) F2009A 242 0 154 228 255 121 Battle Pants Fail Shop
6128 BortinPink CA0092 202 0 146 91757 100 40 Chiran Fail Loot
6360 Unknown (Ex Color: 94114D, 174/66) D81A6F 216 26 111 91773 79 47 Swamp Lord's War Paint Fail Quest
6418 SilkenWrap 9B0057 155 0 87 91766 100 30 Silken Wrap Fail Quest
6442 Unknown (Ex Color: 990049, 72/24, Ex Color: 7B003B, 136/24) E6006C, C8005E 230 0 108 235 255 115 Winged Gromnie Armor Fail Quest
6596 Unknown (Ex Color: 8A0046, 72/24) D6006F 214 0 111 91769 100 42 Suzuhara's Girth of Flame Protection Fail Quest
6884 Pink_VShirt E40B70 228 11 112 91772 91 47 Lace Shirt, Vest, Poet's Shirt Loot
7030 Unknown (Ex Color: 131313, 160/80) 3A3A3A 58 58 58 0 0 23 Loafers, Viamontian Laced Boots Loot Fail
7084 Unknown (Ex Color: FF2580, 40/24) FF71AD 255 113 173 91775 100 72 Lace Shirt, Vest, Poet's Shirt Fail Loot


Orange Palettes

(for samples of orange, fail-dye palets, see the table below)

This is quite subjective, but here I will present the items known to dye orange, categorized in "Nuked Orange", "Warm Orange", "Dull Orange", "Brownish Orange" and "Pale Orange"

Nuked Orange

Underclothes
Aphus Wading Pants


Head Armor
Armet
Baigha
Chainmail Armor
Circlet
Coronet
Diadem
Haebrean Armor
Heaume
Helm of the Crag
Helmet
Horned Helm
Kabuton
Knorr Academy Armor
Olthoi Helm
Salvager's Helm
Scalemail Armor
Signet Crown
Studded Leather Armor
Teardrop Crown


Upper Body Armor
Amuli Armor
Amuli Coat (Infiltrator Master)
Amuli Coat (The Crafter)
Celdon Armor
Chainmail Armor
Haebrean Armor
Koujia Armor
Knorr Academy Armor
Platemail Armor
Scalemail Armor
Yoroi Armor


Lower Body Armor
Celdon Armor
Chainmail Armor
Haebrean Armor
Koujia Armor
Platemail Armor
Scalemail Armor
Yoroi Armor


Hand Armor
Chainmail Armor
Haebrean Armor
Platemail Armor
Scalemail Armor


Feet Armor
Haebrean Armor
Sollerets


Warm Orange

Underclothes
Sparring Shirt


Head Armor
Alduressa Armor
Crimped Hat
Crown
Diforsa Armor
Metal Cap
Noble Helm
Olthoi Alduressa Armor
Olthoi Amuli Armor
Olthoi Armor (Loot)
Olthoi Celdon Armor
Olthoi Koujia Armor


Upper Body Armor
Alduressa Armor
Diforsa Armor
Gromnie Hide Amuli Coat
Lugian Armor
Olthoi Alduressa Armor
Olthoi Amuli Armor
Olthoi Armor (Loot)
Olthoi Celdon Armor
Olthoi Koujia Armor
Squalid Coat
Tenassa Armor


Lower Body Armor
Alduressa Armor
Diforsa Armor
Gromnie Hide Amuli Leggings
Noble Leggings
Olthoi Alduressa Armor
Olthoi Amuli Armor
Olthoi Armor (Loot)
Olthoi Celdon Armor
Olthoi Koujia Armor
Squalid Leggings
Tenassa Armor


Hand Armor
Alduressa Armor
Diforsa Armor
Fists of Stone
Noble Gauntlets
Olthoi Alduressa Armor
Olthoi Amuli Armor
Olthoi Armor (Loot)
Olthoi Celdon Armor
Olthoi Koujia Armor


Feet Armor
Alduressa Armor
Diforsa Armor
Leather Armor
Olthoi Alduressa Armor
Olthoi Amuli Armor
Olthoi Armor (Loot)
Olthoi Celdon Armor
Olthoi Koujia Armor
Walking Boots


Dull and Yellowish Orange

Underclothes
Silken Wrap
Sparring Pants


Full Body Coverage
Dapper Suit
Hearty Reedshark Robe
Sturdy Reedshark Robe


Head Armor
Leather Armor
Nariyid Armor


Upper Body Armor
Armoredillo Hide Bracers
Armoredillo Hide Bracers
Armoredillo Hide Coat
Armoredillo Hide Cuirass
Bastion of Tukal
Fine Armoredillo Hide Shirt
Leather Armor
Nariyid Armor


Lower Body Armor
Leather Armor
Nariyid Armor


Hand Armor
Leather Armor
Machinist's Gloves
Nariyid Armor


Feet Armor
Nariyid Armor


Brownish Orange

Feet Armor
Bunny Slippers
Hulking Bunny Slippers


Pale Orange

Upper Body Armor
Breastplate of Grace
Breastplate of Power
Breastplate of Splendor


Feet Armor
Noble Sollerets


Samples of Orange Palettes

AC ID Name Color Sample Hex R G B H S L Item Obtained
4051 NukedOrange FB6C24 251 108 36 20 96 56 Old Style, Festival Shirt Loot
4890 Unknown (Ex Color: 642D00, 160/8) B04F00 176 79 0 27 100 35 Bunny Slippers Fail Quest
5604 Unknown (Ex Color: 856200, 72/8, Ex Color: 713C00, 108/8, Ex Color: 815D00, 128/8, Ex Color: 8D6600, 174/12 D29900, BE6700,D29900,DA9F00 210 153 0 31 255 105 Bastion of Tukal Fail Quest
5701 Unknown (Ex Color: 986400, 96/20) E49600 228 155 0 28 255 114 Armoredillo Hide Armor Fail Quest
5737 Unknown (Ex Color: BD7700, 72/64) FFA60B 255 166 11 38 100 52 Leather Fail Loot
6015 Unknown Ex Color: B36800, 64/8 FC9400 252 148 0 25 255 126 Sparring Pants Fail Shop
6024 Unknown Ex Color: 823606, 40/24 CA520A 202 82 10 16 231 106 Sparring Shirt Fail Shop

Matching suits

Sometimes, your favorite piece of Armor just does not want to turn into the right shade of pink or orange. No need to panic, the Loot Generator has a few shades of pink and orange too. On User:Sanddh/Guides/Armor Color Table you can find Work in Progress on all the color variations available ingame.

Just a few hints for the Pink addicts:

}} and the Orange Addicts:
AC ID Name Color Sample Hex R G B H S L Item Obtained
1464 Orchid 723D6A 114 61 106 91749 30 34 Old Style Loot
1468 Violet 6D2061 109 32 97 91749 55 28 Old Style Loot
1480 Rose 7E4560 126 69 96 91772 29 38 Old Style Loot
3658 PortalPurple A010BF 160 16 191 289 85 41 Old Style Loot
3664 DullMagenta 960FB3 150 15 179 289 85 38 Old Style Loot
3665 PrincessPurple 8C0EA7 140 14 167 289 85 35 Old Style, Helm of the Abyssal Totem Loot
5074 JaylaPurple AC0FC1 172 15 193 293 86 41 Covenant Loot
5078 SultressPurple D31AED 211 26 237 293 85 52 Covenant Loot
5079 LingiePink D82FEE 216 47 238 293 85 56 Covenant Loot
5080 DeitrichPurple DB43F0 219 67 240 293 85 60 Covenant Loot
5081 YasuhiroPurple C312DB 195 18 219 293 85 46 Covenant Loot
5087 CabalistCoral EE3E2F 238 62 47 5 85 56 Covenant Loot
5088 CoralPink F05648 240 86 72 5 85 61 Covenant Loot
5772 Pink_Leat 981F5A 152 31 90 91771 66 36 Leather Loot
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Images

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AC ID Name Color Sample Hex R G B H S L Item Obtained
1676 Flame A6410E 166 65 14 20 84 35 Old Style Loot
1681 Tangerine B54710 181 71 16 20 84 39 Old Style Loot
1682 AssaultOrange C34D11 195 77 17 20 84 42 Old Style Loot
5044 OwnuzOrange F77100 247 113 0 27 100 48 Covenant Loot
5045 TommyOrange FF8216 255 130 22 28 100 54 Covenant Loot
5046 SuxOrange FF8A26 255 138 38 28 100 57 Covenant Loot
5047 SeedlingOrang DB6500 219 101 0 28 100 43 Covenant Loot
5112 BrightGinger E46E17 228 110 23 25 82 49 Covenant Loot
5593 Orange_Olthoi F86C00 248 108 0 26 100 49 New "Olthoi" Style Loot