Talk:Asheron's Call 2

Single/Multiple pages

I created this page, along with the disclaimer at the top, because some contributor had created individual articles archiving some AC2 lore (teasers or something similar). I did not want this to turn into an archive for a dead game that would not be useful for most viewers and waste unnecessary space, so I created the disclaimer stating that this is to be the only page dedicated to AC2. However, I have been considering the idea of creating a few pages. Specifically, I was thinking about creating a page titled Asheron's Call 2 Lore that would go into the lore in more depth. What got me thinking about this was the fact that we can embed youtube videos here, and that I found the youtube account of ACGuy31 who has most/all of the Vault lore videos, the episode videos, and many other vidoes from AC2 (and AC1). I never played AC2, but I still find the story interesting, even though it is not considered to be canon these days. I am sure others would be interested in the story of the game as well, and in more detail than a simple summary of the game's background story that I intended to be placed in Asheron's_Call_2#Lore_Summary. There could be a few other articles as well that would go deeper than the main AC2 page. For example there could be a development page, a mechanics/gameplay page, and an expansion pack page. I still do not want to archive AC's patch lore, or any in-game information. This is an AC1 wiki. However, I think we could expand our coverage of the sequel beyond 1 page. --An Adventurer 16:58, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

I'd disagree pretty strongly and think the disclaimer saying this should be the only AC2 page should be removed. Primarily for the same reason that AC2 is a dead game, this is an active site and can provide safe haven to any information contributors are able to collect regarding AC2. I'm inclusionist by temperament and think that broadening the information available increases the utility of the wiki. As AC2 is no longer in operation there isn't an AC2 community to speak of, which makes it difficult to maintain or build stores of AC2 information. While not of interest to everyone in the AC1 community, AC2 information is of interest to quite a of few in the AC1 community and so I think it's more than appropriate to provide information about it here where possible. Not that I think it is necessarily a goal that deserves lots of resources or needs to be encouraged while important sections of AC1 content still need attention, but to the extent that contributors add AC2 content I think they should be allowed to do so. --Tlosk 20:03, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

I've removed the disclaimer since we are both in agreement on that. So, what exactly is your stance on AC2 content on the wiki? Everything is acceptable, from archives of internet articles, to character class descriptions, to item stats? If so, should we create an AC2 Namespace? Should we create the namespace anyways, even if the scope of content is limited? My thoughts are this: A new namespace is a must. Even if we only archive a minimal amount of AC2 content, there is still the possibility of overlap between the two games. I think that archiving internet articles - both lore and not - is fine. I'd even go as far as to say creating patch trees would be fine, if only to cover the evolving story and changes to game systems. I think details of character classes and skills are fine as it fits in with the Game Mechanics area. I do not think archives of item stats are needed. My reason for this is 1) the stats are not very useful info, 2) it would require new templates, and I would want to keep the level of wiki templates for AC2 at a minimum, unless we can have an AC2 wiki template namespace, and 3) actually obtaining stats and icons would be pretty hard. I do not think every creature would deserve its own page - if anything, stats would be displayed on the creature type pages. My reason for this is 1) there are few to no free pictures of creatures to use, so each individual creature page would just be stats anyway , and 2) there is no need to have individual pages as there is for AC1 since there is no need to use it to locate spawns. I do not think any quest guides would be needed. I'm not sure quests would even need an individual page. The only useful info I see adding about quests would be Release Patch, Level Restricts, Rewards, Video Archive/General lore summary. This might be accomplished on a single quest page, or several pages broken up by quest type or level or area. --An Adventurer 15:34, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a good idea, I wouldn't have thought of that. I've created the namespace AC2, so now any article that starts "AC2:" will belong to that namespace. To search for material within AC2 the checkbox for that namespace needs to be checked when doing an advanced search (it will not show up in a regular search). I have access to a fair amount of material that is under GPL, including images, that I can add. --Tlosk 16:12, 18 August 2009 (UTC)